Let's see, After schooling I worked on the bobbin lace for awhile upstairs while the oldest child did research for a history paper on Zoroastrianism. I don't think she realizes that it's almost as hard for me to not help as she thinks it is to do this sort of work on her own. I love looking stuff up and learning new things. I know, it's a sickness. I did manage to get all the way to turning a corner in this bobbin lace piece while I didn't help and that wasn't so bad as I thought it would be. I mean I'm still have constant issues with which direction a bobbin ought to do when there are so many adjacent elements, but it's all just an issue of practice, right?